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Post Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:32 am
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So I have a 15 plate RCZ THP200 and I was wondering what serious performance upgrades are available (if any) so a replacement or additional Turbocharger or a Supercharger etc? I am not mechanically minded so you will have to excuse me if this is a stupid question.

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Post Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:15 pm
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what is your goal?

you have a good size turbo under the hood and it can easily reach 240ps
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Post Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:30 pm
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I think, although I may be wrong.
The non R models will only take about 240 ish anyway due to non forged and uprated internals.

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Post Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:44 pm
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RCZIain wrote:
I think, although I may be wrong.
The non R models will only take about 240 ish anyway due to non forged and uprated internals.

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Well that's definitely worth considering.....

my goal really is how fast can I make vs how much is it going to cost.

Post Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:24 pm
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RCZIain wrote:
I think, although I may be wrong.
The non R models will only take about 240 ish anyway due to non forged and uprated internals.

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I think we have made this conversation again

Just take a look in my picture or my signature

Also i said for 240...
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Post Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:46 pm
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Pseud0nym wrote:
So I have a 15 plate RCZ THP200 and I was wondering what serious performance upgrades are available (if any) so a replacement or additional Turbocharger or a Supercharger etc? I am not mechanically minded so you will have to excuse me if this is a stupid question.

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There’s a fella on the 208 ownersclub website who has designed and manufactured a custom built air intake for the thp200 engine which has been getting rave reviews. Just google TMSR induction. Not sure what the gains are..
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:41 am
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That looks sweet but due to my lack of experience in such things I have to look for vehicle specific products or things within the range of what can be undertaken at my local garages :( I was thinking along the lines of a bolt on supercharger or larger turbo but I haven't owned a pug for over 15 years and RCZ tuning options appear to be quite limited.

From what I can gather it shares a lot of components with different models so I am probably best trying to find out what those components and models are and looking for any compatible products that way to expand my options,

Don't suppose such a list would exist somewhere around here ?

Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:15 am
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It's a joint PSA Peugeot Citroen/BMW engine.
There are quite a few cars the engine is in. 508, 308, 208, other PSA Peugeot Citroen cars, MINI, various BMWs.
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:15 pm
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Saw on wheeler dealers (latest series) a mini R40?!? which has a supercharger.

If bmw has put it onto the same engine as the RCZ's the all the hard work has been done
Tia2 is a 2013 RCZ Magnetic in Black with a 2litre diesel engine
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Tia3 is a 2015 RCZ-R in Mercury Grey with a 1.6litre petrol engine, oh and 270 bhp
Other mods include door catch covers, rcz puddle lights
Both have dash cams front and back

Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:59 pm
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^It's a different engine. Anyway, the RCZ engine is already turbocharged, are you actually considering ditching the turbo and fitting a supercharger? If so, why?

Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:58 am
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drdino wrote:
^It's a different engine. Anyway, the RCZ engine is already turbocharged, are you actually considering ditching the turbo and fitting a supercharger? If so, why?


I wouldn't be ditching the turbo, I would be supplementing it. You can have both a supercharged and turbocharged engine, its just a matter of fitting it all into the engine bay lol

Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:05 am
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i will ask you again

what is your goal?
do you want 400ps?
or its all about tuning?
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Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:32 am
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ONLY AEK wrote:
i will ask you again

what is your goal?
do you want 400ps?
or its all about tuning?


And with the greatest respect, I will respond again, to make it as quick as possible without giving my wife any grounds for divorce (shes already upset i've taken my wedding off and used it for a key ring).

This is my plan.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12423

I already have some items in the works and I am currently planning a big August upgrade but they are more handling and visual upgrades, bhp wise I am probably looking somewhere between 230-250bhp but I would prefer to get it over 300 if possible

Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:44 am
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Looks like you should have bought an R instead if bhp is your outright goal but just a thought have you looked into a nitrous kit? Not sure if it’s ever been done on a RCZ before but the instant power would be phenomenal :eusa-think:
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Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:59 am
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neilgsxr69 wrote:
Looks like you should have bought an R instead if bhp is your outright goal but just a thought have you looked into a nitrous kit? Not sure if it’s ever been done on a RCZ before but the instant power would be phenomenal :eusa-think:


I did look at an R but I bought this to run up to Manchester once or twice a week for work so mileage was important, I got mine on a 15 plate with 15000 miles for just over 12k. R's around the 12-15k mark where 30000 miles+ besides people expect R's to be fast, you have to let them have a little hope before you can snatch it away from them lol

No but seriously I got this at a great price, 1 owner, FSH and mint condition and I love the cream interior, all the other ones I looked at had the black with either red or black stitching so this one just jumped out at me.. although I did have to drive all the way down to Swindon to collect it :shock:

..... I cant be trusted with nitrous lmao

Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:18 am
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Yes totally agree with the fact that your car looks a great buy and the seats do look very nice :thumbup:
Regarding commuting the R is actually better on fuel than the 156. And there’s reports that dyno runs on standard R’s Are exceeding the 270bhp claimed by Peugeot :dance:
A street Nitrous kit could give you around 40bhp extra when you need it. :beer:
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Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:48 am
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Pseud0nym wrote:
drdino wrote:
^It's a different engine. Anyway, the RCZ engine is already turbocharged, are you actually considering ditching the turbo and fitting a supercharger? If so, why?


I wouldn't be ditching the turbo, I would be supplementing it. You can have both a supercharged and turbocharged engine, its just a matter of fitting it all into the engine bay lol
It's much more involved than that, a few OEMs have tried it and ditched it afterwards as it's unnecessarily complex.

Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:57 am
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I have the 200 which is suppose to do 44mpg although I am only managing 39.7, I would probably get more but its just so much fun to drive and since most the roads where I live are NSL its easy to get carried away but in any case I was referring to the amount of miles I will be putting on it rather than the cost of fuel, but only because I have a fuel card lol

Nitrous really isnt an option though, insurance aside I would kill myself, I know it and most importantly the mrs knows it, its the same reason she wont let me get a bike!

Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:04 am
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drdino wrote:
Pseud0nym wrote:
drdino wrote:
^It's a different engine. Anyway, the RCZ engine is already turbocharged, are you actually considering ditching the turbo and fitting a supercharger? If so, why?


I wouldn't be ditching the turbo, I would be supplementing it. You can have both a supercharged and turbocharged engine, its just a matter of fitting it all into the engine bay lol


It's much more involved than that, a few OEMs have tried it and ditched it afterwards as it's unnecessarily complex.


I would imagine but with the RCZ sharing a lot of components with other cars, most of which have some form of motorsport background that there maybe some options available

Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:09 am

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Hi,
If you need any help with insurance at all for this type of conversion then please feel free to drop me a line.
Please not that the majority of our insurance schemes have no issues with nitros either and the premium loading are normally more affordable than you'd imagine.
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Dan.

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