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That really sucks :thumbdown: I had almost exactly the same happen to me with my nearside rear just after getting my Z. Fortunately the screw “sealed” itself in the tyre & it didn’t actually deflate, I only saw it because it was near the top of the tyre when I next cleaned the car. Even the pressure warnings didn’t go off.


Like you I had one in my tyre on my old car, but after already getting a new tyre I thought Bullocks it can stay there, since it wasn't going down. It stayed in the tyre until it went bald and I replaced it.
But I don't think I would trust one in my RCZ wheel, I wouldn't even have a puncture repaired, not on something as important as tyres which everytime you go out, you put your trust in them to keep you on track and not sliding into or off the hillside.

Pain in the .... elbow though.

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Yep. It is sort of pain in the ... as that tyre had another 10.000 miles of life in it.

But that's life. I hope I get the new one pretty soon as I miss greatly the grip of those Michelins.
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I discovered after my Brother died that he had insurance on his wheels and tyres. I hadn’t even realised that you could take out seperate insurance against punctures & curbing.

He did have run flat tyres on both his BMW & his Merc, so I suppose the cost of replacing them could justify extra insurance. It turns out he did claim for a new tyre that he damaged the sidewall on, and he had 3 rims repaired, so I suppose it worked out a good deal.

In hindsight, I wish I had seperate insurance on mine :eusa-think:
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DKZ5745 wrote:
I discovered after my Brother died that he had insurance on his wheels and tyres. I hadn’t even realised that you could take out seperate insurance against punctures & curbing.

He did have run flat tyres on both his BMW & his Merc, so I suppose the cost of replacing them could justify extra insurance. It turns out he did claim for a new tyre that he damaged the sidewall on, and he had 3 rims repaired, so I suppose it worked out a good deal.

In hindsight, I wish I had seperate insurance on mine :eusa-think:


This kind of insurance is available for those Michelins over here in ze Germany. I got it. It also is one of the reasons why I go for Michelins :greetings-wavingblue:
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NEW DISCS – BEDDING IN, PART 2:

Let’s continue the break in process for the Alcon brakes.
So, the first 100-300 miles of priming the discs+pads are over. Short recap: we wanted to achieve a perfectly even and smooth surface on the discs and pads before we start with material transfer into the discs. Let’s have a look at those discs after those miles (mixed driving on motorways and B roads)

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We have shaved off most of the uneven surface of the disc and now there is a regular and very smooth surface. In the close up, you can see there have been only tiny dots left over in the material. They are not critical to heat dissipation as most of the surface is even.

Another indicator of a correctly executed priming of the disc’s surface is an even colouring of the discs when they are under load. For example, while you are doing those first 100 to 300 miles there will be moments where your brakes will heat up. That is fine. Still, we are not talking about emergency braking! Try to avoid it! The more important detail to be aware of and to monitor during the first miles is the brake pad to disc pressure rather than the heat. So the discs will eventually heat up and it doesn’t take much to change their colour from silver (cold) to dark blue/velvet (hot) when they are new. If the priming was done correctly the whole surface of the disc will be evenly coloured. There should be no streaks of colors going around the disc like the pad would work only in some areas. And even more critical, no spots around the disc at all. It has to be an even colouring. If you get dark blue spots while doing the priming things will get nasty with those discs later on.

With a surface prepared like this we are ready to start the brutal disc pad to disc surface material transfer. Something which will sound like abuse to some of you but hey, this is what a racing or semi-racing brake needs to perform correctly.

This is going to be part 3.
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UPDATE:

I've done a compression test on my R engine. The results are pretty good.
So basically what you see here is a compression test result from an R engine with almost 100.000 miles on it. Hard driven miles.

The results are what I have expected them to be. I was never worried about the engine's reliability. The figures it pushes are high but not on the edge of what is doable nowadays. If I would keep the car longer I would even go for a proper engine tuning up to 310 horses. It can take it.

There is the graph (attached)

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I'm going back here to the compression test and some open questions. So according to the company the numbers are fine and more important, even across all cylinders. The test was done on a "dry" engine. That's all they told me.

I personally never doubted the durability of the R engine. Maybe this is due to the fact that in my earlier automotive years I drove a lot of high revving Hondas, like the Integra Type-R, the S2000 or CRX VTEC. And those engines were bulletproof. Hi power output from relatively small displacement is a thing that doesn't worry me. :greetings-wavingblue:
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And ... drum rolls ....

She is over the 100.000 miles mark! Actually somewhere at 102.000 miles.
Unfortunately I was not able to make an ODO picture at the very moment she crossed that mark. It happened during last weeks which were very busy for me. If my mind doesn't trick me it happened on my way to a meeting with my business partner. We were chatting a lot, also about cars, and then after a while I looked at the ODO and it was way past the 160935 km mark which equates exactly to 100.000 miles.

So forgive me, my RCZ brothers & sisters for not having a picture of it :eusa-shhh:
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So, as I was talking with another RCZ owner recently at the mileage I do ( we ) .....

5000 smiles / year 11000 smiles now mmm that means I've another 18 years before I get to 100,000 smiles.

and that's a lot of meets !!!

Will we be classed as classic cars by then, considering that the Z will have been out for 26 years in 18 years time..?

Might even have another class of followers by then or just us OAPS :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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RCZ-R wrote:
And ... drum rolls ....

She is over the 100.000 miles mark! Actually somewhere at 102.000 miles.
Unfortunately I was not able to make an ODO picture at the very moment she crossed that mark. It happened during last weeks which were very busy for me. If my mind doesn't trick me it happened on my way to a meeting with my business partner. We were chatting a lot, also about cars, and then after a while I looked at the ODO and it was way past the 160935 km mark which equates exactly to 100.000 miles.

So forgive me, my RCZ brothers & sisters for not having a picture of it :eusa-shhh:


I see your prospective new motor got its unveiling in Monaco today. Plenty of chatter about it online etc and from what I’ve been reading it’s getting good reviews! I have to say it’s a fabulous looking car. I think it will sell well. Is the thp225 the fastest version? I wonder is there any sign of them dropping in that thp270 lump into it. Now that would be something! :eusa-whistle:
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I see your prospective new motor got its unveiling in Monaco today. Plenty of chatter about it online etc and from what I’ve been reading it’s getting good reviews! I have to say it’s a fabulous looking car. I think it will sell well. Is the thp225 the fastest version? I wonder is there any sign of them dropping in that thp270 lump into it. Now that would be something! :eusa-whistle:


Yep, my hopes are high. The new 508 seems to be a very sound car.

Yes, there have been rumors of introducting the R engine into the 508 by the time the have equipped it with a particle filter. Currently the 308 GTi is undergoing those changes and will be then introduced as 2019 model. They say, it won't loose any power over its predecessor because of smart engine mapping. Means, they will turn up the volume so they don't loose any power with the filter box onboard.

And then this very engine could be introduced to the 508. Sounds interesting. I will see and make up my mind.
The 230hp engine in the 508 GT is capable of similar in gear acceleration as the 308 GTi. At least this is what Peugeot says. I don't buy it. There are about 200 kg plus on 508's shoulders compared to 308. The additional 2 gears cannot compensate this.
For sure I won't wait till the hybrid arrives as it will be at the end of 2019.

I'm waiting patiently for a test ride and then will decide.
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Warning! Not for the faint-hearted fans of detailing :-)

This what my R looks like after a +2000 miles trip across Europe. Needs a serious cleaning.
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:shock: :o

I would love to have a go at that, I find it very satisfying to get something that bad back to its gleaming self :eusa-think:
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Driven not hidden.... Well done my friend.

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Driven not hidden.... Well done my friend.

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so did any insect survive or you killed them all?
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DKZ5745 wrote:
:shock: :o

I would love to have a go at that, I find it very satisfying to get something that bad back to its gleaming self :eusa-think:


And I'd love to give her into your hands :greetings-wavingblue:
Before I left for the trip I sealed the whole car with some polymeric sealant and car wax. Those bugs should come off easily. That is what I hope :lol:
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so did any insect survive or you killed them all?


I tried to get all of them while cruising at 140 MPH :eusa-whistle:
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so did any insect survive or you killed them all?


I tried to get all of them while cruising at 140 MPH :eusa-whistle:

Sort of organic wrap. :lol:
If only they could organise their kamikaze strikes to give a more even finish! :roll:
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The next task on the R-to-do list is to decoke the engine.
I finally found few specialists over here in ze Germany. Most of them are working on the Minis. But at the end the engine, at least the intake, should be almost the same with my RCZ. THP equals THP.

I'm really curious to see the level of residue in the intake ports. Over 100k miles of grime are sitting in there :(
And you can feel how much power the engine lost over time.
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