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Post Thu May 16, 2013 7:07 pm
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my car has developed a steering wheel judder at 70mph. Because I work so far away from where I bought the car I had to bring it to two different independent tyre specialists (because the first place couldn't fix the problem) and now the problem still exists and to be honest it spoils the handling and at times it doesn't feel all that safe. I just noticed this evening when washing the car that I have 3 contisport tyres all with about 2mm left and one PH1 tyre on the rear that looks brand new. I can't believe I never noticed this when I was buying it! Anyway, the dealer is ringing me in the morning so I hope they can fix the problem. Its never a good thing having different brands of tyre with different thread depths! Anyone got any advice or suggestions?

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Post Thu May 16, 2013 7:17 pm
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Isn't 2mm the minimum tread depth? Really would have thought that the tyres would have been changed for new ones and certainly not mixed tyre manufacturers. I would wait to see what the dealer says tomorrow. They may offer to share the cost of replacing the tyres for all Contis. I can't see that they would resolve to pay the full cost but you never know.

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Post Thu May 16, 2013 7:21 pm
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Isn't 2mm the minimum tread depth?

In Ireland the legal limit is 1.6mm but to be honest there's not much life left in them I'd say. Yeah, hopefully I can get the problem sorted or it looks like I'll be shelling out for new ones!
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Post Thu May 16, 2013 7:22 pm
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Its 1.6mm here too :)
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Post Thu May 16, 2013 7:25 pm
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One odd tyre shouldn't cause shudder like that. Sounds like one or more wheels is off balance, thats the classic speed you'll notice it. Get each wheel rebalanced, you've maybe lost a weight.
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Post Thu May 16, 2013 7:47 pm
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One odd tyre shouldn't cause shudder like that. Sounds like one or more wheels is off balance, thats the classic speed you'll notice it. Get each wheel rebalanced, you've maybe lost a weight.


Yeah, I made sure in both tyre centres for them to check the wheel balances but how do you trust these places? do they even know what they are doing? It's very difficult to trust garages these days with your pride and joy!!
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Post Thu May 16, 2013 8:32 pm
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It could be a number of things, my car has the same problem!
I'm trying to sort it out as peugeot will not.

I have 3-4mm left on both front and 6mm on the back. I'm considering changing the tyres soon anyway to Dunlop SP Maxx RT in 235/35/R19 as they have the following ratings.

FUEL : C
BRAKING IN WET: A
NOISE: 68db

going to get the weighted, balanced and filled with nitrogen then get the tracking done
I also need to get my brakes done i have a wobble on them :@

I'm changing everything in stages to find out the problem so I'll try report back when I can!

Post Thu May 16, 2013 9:00 pm
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It could be a number of things, my car has the same problem!
I'm trying to sort it out as peugeot will not.

I have 3-4mm left on both front and 6mm on the back. I'm considering changing the tyres soon anyway to Dunlop SP Maxx RT in 235/35/R19 as they have the following ratings.

FUEL : C
BRAKING IN WET: A
NOISE: 68db

going to get the weighted, balanced and filled with nitrogen then get the tracking done
I also need to get my brakes done i have a wobble on them :@

I'm changing everything in stages to find out the problem so I'll try report back when I can!



The first tyre centre I went to claimed that there were no wheel buckles but the weight of the wheels was off. I drove the car out onto the motorway and there was no difference at all. A few days later I went to another tyre centre and they claimed that the weights were slightly off and one of the wheels had a slight buckle (the new tyre).
Back onto another motorway and things have improved a little but still totally unsatisfactory!!!!
Queue more head scratching..... :crazy:
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Post Fri May 17, 2013 3:48 am
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I had a similar problem. But at around 80 _90 mph it was a constant tremble in the steering it never disappeared and all my tyres where new l just stayed away from 90 mph :(

Post Fri May 17, 2013 10:29 am
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I had a similar problem. But at around 80 _90 mph it was a constant tremble in the steering it never disappeared and all my tyres where new l just stayed away from 90 mph :(


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Post Fri May 17, 2013 4:47 pm
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donnaj1dlh wrote:
jassyo06 wrote:
I had a similar problem. But at around 80 _90 mph it was a constant tremble in the steering it never disappeared and all my tyres where new l just stayed away from 90 mph :(


National speed limit is 70mph :eusa-whistle: or were you in Germany on a roadtrip??? :eusa-think:



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Post Fri May 17, 2013 6:02 pm
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jassyo06 wrote:
donnaj1dlh wrote:
jassyo06 wrote:
I had a similar problem. But at around 80 _90 mph it was a constant tremble in the steering it never disappeared and all my tyres where new l just stayed away from 90 mph :(


National speed limit is 70mph :eusa-whistle: or were you in Germany on a roadtrip??? :eusa-think:



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Post Fri May 17, 2013 6:10 pm
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75 mph here. Anyway, car is booked in to dealer tomorrow so hopefully they will fix it. Just checked tyre pressures and they are all over the place aswell.
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Post Fri May 17, 2013 7:39 pm
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75 mph here. Anyway, car is booked in to dealer tomorrow so hopefully they will fix it. Just checked tyre pressures and they are all over the place aswell.



So where my tyre pressures from the factory :wtf: but it still continued at that speed around 85mph/90 mph around silverstone that Brooklands bend in the rcz and on to the Pitt straight is a peach JWT........... :lol:

Post Sat May 18, 2013 1:51 pm
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I'm happy to report back that my steering wheel judder has been fixed. Now, the car feels fantastic and really ploughs through puddles :D Happy Days!!!
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Post Sat May 18, 2013 2:00 pm
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renegade79 wrote:
I'm happy to report back that my steering wheel judder has been fixed. Now, the car feels fantastic and really ploughs through puddles :D Happy Days!!!

Great news. What was the cause of the problem and who diagnosed it?
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Post Sat May 18, 2013 6:26 pm
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renegade79 wrote:
I'm happy to report back that my steering wheel judder has been fixed. Now, the car feels fantastic and really ploughs through puddles :D Happy Days!!!


So what did they do? Mine also judders and feels a little wobbly about the 75-80mph mark. However, I'm not convinced that my summer tyres were correctly balanced when they were put back on some weeks ago.
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Post Sun May 19, 2013 4:06 pm
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Well, I took the car back to the dealer and took the mechanic out in it for a tet drive and showed him the problem. He then put it onto ramp and said that all of the wheel weights were wrong so 2 hours later I took it out for a test run with the mechanic and the car immediately felt much better. And at the 70-80mph stage the steering wheel judder was virtually gone. I think with big 19" wheels there will always be a small bit of judder but I'm very happy with the result and the customer service was very satisfactory!

Other issues affecting wheel judder is buckled wheels and/or brake discs. Just a case of inspeting each one in diagnosing the problem!
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Post Sun May 19, 2013 6:55 pm
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I have had issues with this also, I found that I had flat spots on a tyre, the garage never picked it up until 3x checks replaced the tyre all is well, had them all balanced and same as you no difference. Sounds to me as though you have got flat spots

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I've got this exact same issue too. Started IMMEDIATELY after getting two new front tyres back in July. I got the wheels re-balanced again and helped a tiny bit, then swapped the new tyres to the rear, helped a bit more. Eventually thought the tyres must be faulty so replaced them again and again has helped a little bit but still have slight judder at 70+. I've also had the balancing redone on all 4 wheels another couple of times since then and watched the guy balance it down to 0 on the last attempt. Judder now comes somewhat intermittently, doing a steady 70 it will just be visible on the steering wheel (and feel bad) for about 20-30 seconds then it will ease off for a few miles before coming back again. Very odd. As the OP says, it spoils the car as it was a great cruiser before this.

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