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Gyxx Regular
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Dear all,

I MADE IT !!!!!

Had time today since out of work earlier, and utilized a 5E cable (sheilded network cable).

Had not a 6E available and checking the bandwith and the year of production of the car etc i did realize the 6E were not yet available and in any case bandwith should be the same as well as other electrical specs like resistence, impedence etc.

Only bad thing is the cable I had is made of 8 single wires, a little bit more rigid than the original multi wire.

This can mean shorter shelf life of the repair .... but at the moment works and i hope it will keep on doing that for a while.

Another good thing, i did realize where the on/off switch is placed, it is on the left, it can easily get losen and have a miscontact (mine was starting to do so), but can also be easily fixed.

:D

I did a lot of pictures of the step-to step procedure for everything i did, cable replacing is NOT really easy if you have not the good equipment and a good maunality, but if you manage to open the screen and remove the cable (VERY easy) an electronic repairer can fix it quite easily if you were not so confident.

Ok, now there's the part where i do still need your help ....

Don't take joke of me too much, but even if now everything works fine I'm not able to remove the four 1287 key from the car stereo .... can somebody help me ?

:D

Moreover, i still do have the trim damaged ... anyone knows where to take a new one ?


Cheers

Gyxx

P.S. I'll try to upload eveything ASAP, hope before monday, but don't know If I'll be able to repsect the timelines :D


mjcuk2000 Senior Member
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Well done :-). I thankfully don't need to worry about this issue just now but am interested in what you've done for future reference.

The trim that surrounds the screen is part number 659344. RCZ Performance should be able to get one for you.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by the 1287 key?

Gyxx Regular
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Thanks mjcuk2000 !

Solved the problems with the keys mod. 1287 utilized to detach the nav from the dashboard ... was very easy to unplug them sometimes easier things were the most difficult.

:D

And thanks to the part number, I'll order in a while, already got the RCZ keyring form RCZ performance !

At the moment I've forgot the data from my imagashack acount , so I'll try to attach the picture il very low res to the forum.

First one is the label of the cable, maybe there's a hint to get the PUG code and reorder it !

Second is an image of the screen after removing the abs cover, just with a supermarket card :D. REALY easy and soft, not like the trim ! In red where the 6 torx were, in yellow the two clips that have to be removed by lifiting them with a flat screwdriver.

Third shot is inside the screen after removig the EM shiled. the video cable is the one in the middle. unplug it the remove the clips (4) and the left + canal (5) by pulling it out, then unscrew the cable block at right (6), then the 3 torx on the left t0 detach the flip flop engine (7) and remove the screen block from the dash and finally the cable with the left canal.

Will continue on next post due to attch limits :D
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Left canal pulled out from the right
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4 scr_clip.JPG
Clip details - just use a plat crewdriver and lift them up.
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3 SCR_OPN.JPG
Electronic panel with the video connector in the middle (inside it is white, the one that enters the satnav is black and is specular)
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2 SCR_INS.JPG
Inside the mobile screen of the sat nav, in red circle the 6 7x25 torx to unscrew to access the electronic panel, in yellow circle the two red clips fixing the screen to the dash part.
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Video cable label, maybe there's also the PUG ID
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Gyxx Regular
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After having removed the flipfplo engine, you can take out the screen aprt from the dash part. With the screen alone you can be able to take away the cable and the left guide.

The connectors were quite easy to open, see instruction below the picture. But if you're not skilled, just bring to an electronic repaires and tell him to join 2 cm of the cable from the connector to a cat 5e/6e network cable 1m long.

Twisted pairs within original cable and connector were one next to the other, and were the following :

Blue/ Brown, Yellow/Green, Red/Orange, Gray/White.

I have joined them to the corresponding wires on the twisted pair 5E cable that i do own :

Blue/BlueWhite, GreenWhite/Green, OrangeWhite/Orange, BrownWhite/Brown.

Probably any other combination will work providing the fat that the twisted pairs were fullfileld, however this way I did copy also the quandrant setup of the original cable within my network cable, and most of the colors were copyed 1:1 to avoid confuion.

To produce a sharp work you do have to utilize a soldering station set at 320°C, and thermo retractable cable to cover the joints.
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Inside of the screen with replaced cable ;-D
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Front of white connector. Black one is a mirror image.
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8 SCR CN OP.JPG
Connector open - to do so you have to untape it (keep the tape for after repair) unbend the pipe crimped and use a little flat screwdriver. This is the white one going to the screen - the twisted pairs were one next to another on the same side (Blue/ Brown, Yellow/green, Red/orange, Gray/white)
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detach the screen flip flop engine . first you have to unscrew 3 torx.
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remove screen block on the right
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Gyxx Regular
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Unfortunately i did forget to take pictures of the cable surgery :d, but that cen be good, if you don't imagine how to do it you should not do it.

:D

After replacing the cable you just have to reassemble everything in reverse order.

In picture 11 you'll see the bew cable withi the right block with the correct bending.

In picture 12 you'll see in red circle the connector of the on/off swith on the left side of the screen.

Hope this will help somebody else !

Ciao

;)

Gyxx
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ON Off switch connector on the left side. Check that is well conencted !
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repaired cable with the right block and correct bending
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Geppi111 Regular
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What a fantastic effort to effect the repair. Hats off to you! I hope the repair is long lasting. At least now we have an understanding of the problem associated with the screen flicker. I am sure quite a lot of the cases recorded are as a result of cabling issues and it is a shame that Peugeot will not accept this and try to modify the unit to alleviate the problem once and for all. Ever thought of setting up a cottage industry repairing these units for RCZ owners, I am sure you would have plenty of customers as I don't think the problem is going to be resolved in the immediate future. Good luck! :thumbup:

leenineplus User avatar

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Went to Peugeot this morning. They had it for an hour. Screen flickering etc. Apparently there are ten different screens and they don't know which one mine has. They need the car for three days and are going to replace the main screen.
One day to take it out then order the screen, then fit it on day two/three.
GT Opal White HDI 163.
19" Soltice, Sat Nav.
Intergral Black leather.

Gyxx Regular
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Quick reply from my side, with some considerations :

- It seems that there are two mayor problems concerning the screen and the cables : one regards right cable, carrying the video signals (my problems, fixed as you can read), and others concerning the left cable and the on/off switch.
- for the right cable, you've seen how to fix it, if not finding any other resources near you as worst case I can try to fix it (remember I do live in Italy, however). It is not the favorite option, but is still better than paying 1500 eur.
-what I've noticed after the repair is that the blue shift that was affecting recently the screen, the rare times it was was working properly, had completely disappeared. So a first clue of cable damage can be color shift.
- The left side On/Off switch should be serviceable, the plug at least it is, in case of doubts we can short circuit to have it as an always on.
- The left cable, coming from the dashboard and bringing signals to the unit, is divided into two segments : the one that goes to the unit from dashboard, and the one going inside the screen from below the unit. My suspect is that this is the cable Peugeot was answering about, since it is the only one connecting to the dashboard (the right one connects to the sat nav) and the one giving approximate fix since it does interact with the rotatory switch.
_ My suspect is that it is still possible to order the right side video network cable to PUG, as soon as I'll have some time I'll write rcz performance to ask about it, the trim and some led daylights for my little toy feline car.

I'll keep you posted, in the meanwhile my repair is still working perfectly (finger crossed).

Ciao, e

enjoy your RCZ int he weekend !!!!

;-)

Gyxx

leenineplus User avatar

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They had it last Monday 0900hrs to see what new screen it would require. New screen ordered and fitted by 0930 Wed morning. All okay again.
GT Opal White HDI 163.
19" Soltice, Sat Nav.
Intergral Black leather.

asphalt Newbie
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additional interesting information about repairing the cable yourself:

http://peugeot-rcz.forumactif.com/t1732-probleme-affichage-ecran-couleur-wipcom-3d

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