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Post Sun May 18, 2014 9:54 am
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That's strange, as it's currently in my wheel wellImageImage

Albeit, slightly deflated.

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Post Sun May 18, 2014 3:52 pm
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Yep. They fit. I too have a brand new 19" tyre fitted to a rim in my wheel well.
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Post Tue May 20, 2014 3:44 pm
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Hi I would be interested in people’s thoughts on the following points.
1 I have always considered it necessary to replace in pairs anything axle related. Springs, dampers, brake pads etc. and tyres which this thread is about. This is why I replaced the two front tyres and used one part worn as my spare. So if in the future I was unfortunate enough to get a puncture I would be replacing like for like
2 Carrying a new tyre as a spare seems an expensive measure and if you get a puncture you will have one part worn and one new tyre on the same axle. Different levels of grip?
3 If you have to partially deflate the new tyre so it fits in the wheel well, will the sidewall be damaged over time? Not quite the same but I once left a car in the garage over winter and it had flat spots on all four tyres when I pulled it out.
4 You still have to carry a pump. Extra weight? Extra fuel use? :?
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Post Tue May 20, 2014 4:20 pm
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RCZash wrote:
Hi I would be interested in people’s thoughts on the following points.
1 I have always considered it necessary to replace in pairs anything axle related. Springs, dampers, brake pads etc. and tyres which this thread is about. This is why I replaced the two front tyres and used one part worn as my spare. So if in the future I was unfortunate enough to get a puncture I would be replacing like for like
2 Carrying a new tyre as a spare seems an expensive measure and if you get a puncture you will have one part worn and one new tyre on the same axle. Different levels of grip?
3 If you have to partially deflate the new tyre so it fits in the wheel well, will the sidewall be damaged over time? Not quite the same but I once left a car in the garage over winter and it had flat spots on all four tyres when I pulled it out.
4 You still have to carry a pump. Extra weight? Extra fuel use? :?


Fully agree with your thoughts in paragraphs one and two
I can't see a problem in a partially deflated tyre being stored. There is no weight or pressure being placed upon it after all.
Yes extra weight and fuel use as well as increased emissions which is the excuse used by manufactures for not suppling them in the first place. However the benefits of being able to continue your journey at normal speeds, following a puncture and the ability to have the damaged tyre replaced/repaired at the right price as opposed to being held to ransome by some opportunist outfit, outweigh this extra cost for me at least.
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Post Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:19 pm
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spare 19" solstice alloy in my RCZ with an used tyre (so not deflated) ;)

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Post Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:25 pm
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To all Manufacturers.
Give us back our proper spare tyres and wheels.
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Post Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:32 pm
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To all Manufacturers.
Give us back our proper spare tyres and wheels.


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Post Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:41 pm
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Reduces the cost (for manufacturers) and allows them to meet fuel efficiency targets. Won't be reappearing any time soon I'm afraid, annoying as it is!


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Post Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:22 pm
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I just bought a RCZ and the previous owner had a spare in the boot with a 235 40 19 just loose taking up the space in the boot.

Looked on here and read that you need to deflate it or get a 235 35 19 to make it fit.

So went up my tyre place to buy a 235 35 19 to put on the rim so i could put it in the tray under the boot as I cant be bothered to let the air out! The 35 tyre fitted easy..

So I said just try the wheel I have with conti 3 235 40 19 (i.e. the standard tyre!) fitted it from back to front to get it under the plastic lip! Fitted like a glove!!! no need to remove any screws for plastic lip...

Ordered a Peugeot 207 Jack which is the same as a 308 Jack and as everyone knows the RCZ is based on a 308 £15 delivered!!

So if I had no spare this is what I would do....
buy a 19 alloy off Ebay for 130 quid leave the air in it!! and a 15 quid Peugeot 207 jack!! you get the brace with the RCZ anyway!!

You could buy a 207 spare wheel foam insert with the jack if you want it to look pretty for about 40-50 quid!!

Whats all fuss about!!!??

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Post Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:26 pm
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I just bought a RCZ and the previous owner had a spare in the boot with a 235 40 19 just loose taking up the space in the boot.

Looked on here and read that you need to deflate it or get a 235 35 19 to make it fit.

So went up my tyre place to buy a 235 35 19 to put on the rim so i could put it in the tray under the boot as I cant be bothered to let the air out! The 35 tyre fitted easy..

So I said just try the wheel I have with conti 3 235 40 19 (i.e. the standard tyre!) fitted it from back to front to get it under the plastic lip! Fitted like a glove!!! no need to remove any screws for plastic lip...

Ordered a Peugeot 207 Jack which is the same as a 308 Jack and as everyone knows the RCZ is based on a 308 £15 delivered!!

So if I had no spare this is what I would do....
buy a 19 alloy off Ebay for 130 quid leave the air in it!! and a 15 quid Peugeot 207 jack!! you get the brace with the RCZ anyway!!

You could buy a 207 spare wheel foam insert with the jack if you want it to look pretty for about 40-50 quid!!

Whats all fuss about!!!??

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I wish you all the best of luck with the scissor jack, hope that you have more success with it than I did :cry:
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Post Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:34 pm
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The scissor jack is not strong enough for the RCZ or it's dodgy jacking points, I'm afraid.


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Post Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:12 pm
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Here is my solution to the spare wheel issue.

The steel space saver from a 2008 407

Peugeot Part No. 5401R4 Cost £48

The tyre size is 135/80 x 17m Continental tyre total cost £67

Brand new Jack for & tools off Ebay £20

Total cost £135

NOTE This will only fit the rear as the front disc is too big.

Can confirm that the wheel will fit nicely into boot well with ample space for compressor, jack & all tools.
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I've just bought a 407 spacesaver from Ebay for £45 delivered with a brand new Continental 135/80/17 for my RCZ which has 235/40/19 tyres. I must admit that I find the whole tyre profile / size stuff a bit confusing. The spacesaver definitely seems smaller than the original wheels / tyres. I did fit it and drive it round the block but it seemed fine. The post above seems to suggest that it's the right size but can someone please confirm?

Post Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:55 am
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After a quick look on the www I think I've answered my own question. The spare wheel can be a different circumference to +/- 5%, with +/- 2% being recommended. My spacesaver spare is around - 3.5% so I guess that's OK for emergency use especially as the speed should be limited to 50mph. I'll probably never use it!

I wanted to go down the 407 spacesaver route as it's less bulky and I imagine it weighs significantly less.

Post Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:57 pm
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Just bought a 60 plate RCZ recently and also decided that I wanted a spare wheel rather than the tyre repair kit that the manufacturers stupidly think will do! . I trawled Ebay and could only find the normal expensive answers until by sheer chance I stumbled across a Citroen C5 steel wheel which has the same 5 x 108 Wheel bolt fitting as the RCZ. It came with a brand new tyre already fitted which was a Michelin 225/55/R17. Cost of wheel and tyre delivered £59. Bought a 2 ton Hydraulic jack off Ebay for less than £24 delivered. Already had a telescopic wheel wrench from Lidl for a fiver LOL!!

I fitted the wheel today and drove it around the block and it fits perfectly. Its a full size spare almost exactly the same size as the RCZ Alloy Wheel and tyre! I reckon this is a good economical solution and despite the fact that it has to sit in the actual boot rather than underneath ( unless I deflate it and then re-inflate it on having to use it) it will do the job well.

Total cost around £88! Bargain!!

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Post Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:04 pm
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Graystar007 wrote:
Just bought a 60 plate RCZ recently and also decided that I wanted a spare wheel rather than the tyre repair kit that the manufacturers stupidly think will do! . I trawled Ebay and could only find the normal expensive answers until by sheer chance I stumbled across a Citroen C5 steel wheel which has the same 5 x 108 Wheel bolt fitting as the RCZ. It came with a brand new tyre already fitted which was a Michelin 225/55/R17. Cost of wheel and tyre delivered £59. Bought a 2 ton Hydraulic jack off Ebay for less than £24 delivered. Already had a telescopic wheel wrench!

I fitted the wheel today and drove it around the block and it fits perfectly. Its a full size spare almost exactly the same size as the RCZ Alloy Wheel and tyre! I reckon this is a good economical solution and despite the fact that it has to sit in the actual boot rather than underneath ( unless I deflate it and then re-inflate it on having to use it) it will do the job well.
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Post Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:07 pm
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Just bought a 60 plate RCZ recently and also decided that I wanted a spare wheel rather than the tyre repair kit that the manufacturers stupidly think will do! . I trawled Ebay and could only find the normal expensive answers until by sheer chance I stumbled across a Citroen C5 steel wheel which has the same 5 x 108 Wheel bolt fitting as the RCZ. It came with a brand new tyre already fitted which was a Michelin 225/55/R17. Cost of wheel and tyre delivered £59. Bought a 2 ton Hydraulic jack off Ebay for less than £24 delivered. Already had a telescopic wheel wrench!

I fitted the wheel today and drove it around the block and it fits perfectly. Its a full size spare almost exactly the same size as the RCZ Alloy Wheel and tyre! I reckon this is a good economical solution and despite the fact that it has to sit in the actual boot rather than underneath ( unless I deflate it and then re-inflate it on having to use it) it will do the job well.
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Post Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:10 pm
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Just bought a 60 plate RCZ recently and also decided that I wanted a spare wheel rather than the tyre repair kit that the manufacturers stupidly think will do! . I trawled Ebay and could only find the normal expensive answers until by sheer chance I stumbled across a Citroen C5 steel wheel which has the same 5 x 108 Wheel bolt fitting as the RCZ. It came with a brand new tyre already fitted which was a Michelin 225/55/R17. Cost of wheel and tyre delivered £59. Bought a 2 ton Hydraulic jack off Ebay for less than £24 delivered. Already had a telescopic wheel wrench!

I fitted the wheel today and drove it around the block and it fits perfectly. Its a full size spare almost exactly the same size as the RCZ Alloy Wheel and tyre! I reckon this is a good economical solution and despite the fact that it has to sit in the actual boot rather than underneath ( unless I deflate it and then re-inflate it on having to use it) it will do the job well.
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To save scratching your alloys wheel bolt holes when removing/tightening the wheel bolts put masking tape around the socket of the wheel wrench (told to me by a body paint shop).
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I have a 2015 rcz GT and was able to purchase a new 19 inch sortilege wheel with new tyre cheap. I have seen on the forum that people have fitted 19 inch wheels in the well. I have tried my wheel but cannot get it into the space even with it deflated to 12 psi the biggest bugbear being the plastic lip at the front of the boot that the shelf rests on. If there is someone that has solved this problem could they please give me the solution as I'm wary of deflating the tyre further.

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I used a brand new 19" wheel and had fitted a budget 235 35 19 tyre,fits in wheel well snug,just raises the floor board slightly,wrapped jack & tools in an old towel to protect alloy,works for me. :thumbup:
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