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Post Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:16 pm
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As it appears we are heading for a harsh winter I wanted to know what people recommend for a good winter tyre? And also recommendations for storing the others...
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Post Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:24 pm
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Please check out this thread and I think you'll find most of your answers within:

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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:24 am
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I store mine in the loft. Each one laid flat individually and fully supported.
RCZ is the only car to make the Audi TT appear dated, and is officially the sexiest car on the road.

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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:42 am
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I have these Vredesteins:

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop. ... eugart=ALL

A good price at the moment!! I've had them on my last two Peugeots as well, hence why I had to have them again (albeit a different profile)

go for the correct 40 profile on mytyres and you're looking at a minimum of £252 each! Eeek! Save £450 buying a set of Vreds!!
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:43 pm
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I've gone for two Pirelli Sotto Zero's on the front as it's front wheel drive and apparently better grip in the wet than other winter tyres. I was going to buy 4 but the guy said it's not worth it unless I was driving up mountains! He could have just taken my money I suppose
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:25 pm
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Was he by any chance old? This is a common but potentially catastrophic piece of poor advice. This was common practice some years ago but, due to the advances in tyre compounds, is now highly inadvisable!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmM2pKUhSHg

I'd urge you to rethink this or you'd have been almost as well not bothering at all!!
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:37 pm
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Bloody hell! Why is everything so difficult! Think I may well order 2 more now!!
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:47 pm
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Phew ordered 2 more! Thanks Rizz! Never had winter tyres before so this is all new to me! Think he was just trying to save me money to be honest as he was recommended by a friend.
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:10 pm
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I wish I had never started this now! Apparently Perelli tyres aren't suitable for a Peugeot!! Now I have to wait till tomorrow to sort it out!
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:33 pm
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I heard a lot of insuance companies are clamping down on only fitting two winter tyres ....understandably when you consider there's a high risk of spinning out due to lack of grip on the back.
Also inform your insurers that you've put on winters, its classed as a safety enhancement so no premium change. Better to be safe than sorry,you don't want to have an accident and the insurers find out you've non-standard tyres.

Why are pirellis not suitable???
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:57 pm
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You're welcome perky. :thumbup: Are you sure about that that's true about the Pirelli's? There are two winter tyres recommended by Peugeot. One is the Contis winter contacts that I have on and I could swear tha i was told that the other ones were Pirelli's but I'm not sure which one. I veteod the alternative as it was considerably more expensive a tyre. Phone a dealership and they can confirm which ones are recommended/approved by Peugeot for the RCZ.
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:00 pm
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I phoned Pirelli and they said they are only recommended for a Porsche or an Aston Martin so also don't want that to be a factor should anything happen! I found an article from the ABI which lists which assurers need to be told and mine don't:

https://www.abi.org.uk/Insurance-and-sa ... nter-tyres

I would have not been happy had I list the back end of the car after poor advice, I shall be asking for a refund tomorrow.
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:51 pm
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Well the winter contacts are DEFINITELY approved. Pug will be able to confirm with you what the other approved tyre is. As you have discovered, an insurer can dodge a payout if your car is not being run in accordance with the manufacturer's guidance. No point taking unnecessary risks with this.

Good find with the website. :thumbup:
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The replacement; Summit White Astra (J) GTC VXR

Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:14 pm
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I was told that the conti's that Mr Rizz recommended to me last year were designed for Porsche. Totally agree that you require four winter tyres fitted. In all honesty they do not actually cost anything if you are planning to keep the car. They cost less than summer tyres and whilst you are getting the benefit of your winter tyres your more expensive summer ones are taking a break and can be put back on in the same condition as when they were removed. So all you are doing is buying four tyres in advance of actually needing them (so to speak)
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:11 pm
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I couldn't comment on who they were designed for but they're definitely the ones approved by Pug for the RCZ.
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The replacement; Summit White Astra (J) GTC VXR

Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:14 pm
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I'll get it sorted tomorrow! If the manufacturer explicitly says not recommended for the RCZ then I wouldn't take the chance, would be just my luck to have an accident and the insurers not to pay out. The insurers say they are fine with winter tyres as long as they are fitted to the manufacturers guidelines, which they wouldn't be.
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:17 pm
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Exactly perky...exactly.
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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:10 pm
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Jeezo, tyres are tyres surely? I don't think I've ever heard such nonsense :eusa-think:
I'm sure pirelli couldn't give a monkeys what car their tyres go on....otherwise they would implicitly state so on their websites, wholesale sites etc ???? And how exactly are they 'not suitable'? Can anyone enlighten me?? Never has anyone gone into kwikfit to have them told ....sorry sir those tyres aren't suitable .... if they're round, made of rubber and fit, job done?

Its not something I'm going to lose sleep over.
Celebrated the birth of a "bog standard" Amber Red 2.0 HDi GT RCZ............born on 01 Oct 11
.... staying faithful to the brand:
2011 RCZ HDi GT, Amber Red
2006 207 HDi GT, Lacerta Yellow
2000 306 HDi DTurbo, China Blue
1998 306 DTurbo, Silver
and then I went and bought a Volcanic Orange Mini Cooper S, born 14Jun14 ... 'kin meong.......

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Post Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:57 pm
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I would suggest that they may not be the correct load bearing tyres Donna. I'm fairly certain that the person who goes and uses Kwik Fit isn't in the least bit car orientated and suspect that Kwik Fit probably know it. Further to this it's probably about the speed rating of the tyre.
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The replacement; Summit White Astra (J) GTC VXR

Post Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:50 am
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Pirelli do implicitly state on their website in the homoglation section and Peugeot aren't in it, and they also told me over the phone :-) I'm sure they work but knowing what insurance companies are like I'm
Not risking it.
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