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Post Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:15 pm
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Hi all,

Having owned my R for 6months or so now i am just trying to research into future costs for replacing a few parts. Can anyone advise where to look and costs for the following:

Front Brake Discs 380mm (Are 308GTi discs what we would now use?)
Front Brake Calipers (Other options?)
Front Pads

I can find all parts for rear brakes parts but not the front.

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Post Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:26 pm
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Ebay item 322581063565 will give you the right pads.. £179. A set.

Post Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:24 am
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You could try the 308 discs on your R but I don't know if anyone tried it before. Alcon still manufactures the original discs for the R. They look a bit different to those on the 308.

Pads, well you got the ebay item here. Much cheaper it won't get.

Calipers? What are your plans? To strip those and replace with others? Costs, costs, costs...
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Post Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:45 pm
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what is the difference between the discs on the R and the GTi? there is a slight cut on the discs on the R that appears on some GTi's but not all GTi's. is that what you mean?
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Post Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:06 pm
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'scuse me for poking my nose in, but ...

Although Docksey007 mentions "R" in his query, his sig says 2.0 HDI 163.

Just saying, in case at cross purposes.
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Post Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:46 pm
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Good point but he does refer to having his R for 6 months and he is bang on about the Alcon discs being 380mm so I’m presuming he’s moved on from the HDi to an R.... :eusa-whistle:
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Post Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:43 pm
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I just had my front discs replaced under warranty but I paid for the pads.
The alcon discs are £500 each cost so £1000 then fitting was free because of warranty work, but the pads were £385 the pair inc vat. If I had to pay for fitting it would have been almost £1800 for original parts....

though I have not found discs, I have found these pads by Ferodo ; check them out...

http://www.jdl-brakes.com/peugeot/peuge ... -pads.html

Hope that helps... :beer:
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Post Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:02 am
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The only discs available for the R are the Alcon discs and only available via Peugeot. You can’t buy them direct from Alcon.
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Post Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:29 am
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renegade79 wrote:
what is the difference between the discs on the R and the GTi? there is a slight cut on the discs on the R that appears on some GTi's but not all GTi's. is that what you mean?


As you mentioned, the discs on the R are slotted compared to 308's and the construction of the hat or bell, the piece connecting the disc to the wheel hub, is a different one.
I assume they changed the design due to the occasional squealing when breaking on those R discs. Where this issue was kind of manageable with the R owners (low numbers), they had to "do something" about the higher numbers of GTis sold. Price-wise there are hardly any differences.
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Post Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:39 am
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RCZ-R wrote:
renegade79 wrote:
what is the difference between the discs on the R and the GTi? there is a slight cut on the discs on the R that appears on some GTi's but not all GTi's. is that what you mean?


As you mentioned, the discs on the R are slotted compared to 308's and the construction of the hat or bell, the piece connecting the disc to the wheel hub, is a different one.
I assume they changed the design due to the occasional squealing when breaking on those R discs. Where this issue was kind of manageable with the R owners (low numbers), they had to "do something" about the higher numbers of GTis sold. Price-wise there are hardly any differences.
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Post Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:00 am
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this is how they look like
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Post Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:00 pm
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Hi all. Thanks for the replies.

I did have a HDi back in 2013 for couple of years before I went to a Golf R. The time came around where I made the mistake of taking a RCZ R for a test drive. Ended up driving it home that same weekend. Whoops.

The reason I ask is I have a feeling if I took it in to Peugeot to be done when the time comes the discs need replacing I will get stung. Having a few contacts in the trade that could do the work I’m looking at where I can actually get the parts. I’m very suprised if it’s not possible esspecially with the Gti seeming to have a similar part which I thought has been used on some R’s. Maybe mistaken.

The sign of the discs needing replacing would be identifiable from the markings is this correct?

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Post Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:11 pm
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Interesting reply @RCZR. we learn something new every day.

Joe if you do source discs elsewhere let us know, please.
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Post Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:59 pm
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I have seen Alcon 380mm rotors without the bells. The R brake does not appear to be able to be seperated as alot of the other Alcon fitments do. It will be interesting to see if a seperate bell and rotor combo becomes available as the cars get older.. We could all petition Alcon to make that a possibility.. lol. I reckon that Peugeout have done this deliberatly to keep us coming back to the main dealers...

Post Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:55 pm
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The discs cannot be separated from the bell. It is an one-piece part.

@Docksey007
You can try the 308 discs on your R. Before that I'd check the wheel hub (is it exactly the same as on the R?), the PCD/hole and then order them.

When it comes to wear-off indicator for those original R discs, there is a minimum thickness in mm printed on the disc. When you take off one of the front wheels you will see it. It is pretty in the middle of the disc, hidden by the rim. If I recall correctly it is 30mm
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Dyno results here: http://www.peugeotrczforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10118

Post Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:46 am
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Have a chat to you local motorsport shop and see about them building some custom bells that will fit a off the shelf rotor?

Post Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:39 pm
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RCZ-R wrote:
The discs cannot be separated from the bell. It is an one-piece part.

@Docksey007
You can try the 308 discs on your R. Before that I'd check the wheel hub (is it exactly the same as on the R?), the PCD/hole and then order them.

When it comes to wear-off indicator for those original R discs, there is a minimum thickness in mm printed on the disc. When you take off one of the front wheels you will see it. It is pretty in the middle of the disc, hidden by the rim. If I recall correctly it is 30mm
Check the fade on my caliper.. I noticed it when I bought it.. It has got slightly worse, I never use anything acid based either..You can see the thk 30 printed on the bell just under the caliper....Image

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Post Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:50 am
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The discs on your car look like new. Hardly used.
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Post Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:47 pm
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These, I belive are the originals. I have no record of the previous owner changing them, As you knw they are are race spec brake, they are nails, designed to withstand hard use, I find it really difficult to put them anywhere near their design limits, it is this I believe that enables them to wear very well. People have a fear about the cost of them, If they are not lucky enough to be able to hammer them by hauling the car to a stop after a 120 mile an hour burst on an autobahn they will last a fair few years.. My daily commute is 60 miles, I have one very short motorway burst and the rest is traffic injested A and B roads, this gives me an average speed of....32Mph. Brakes are used very infrequently due to the input speeds that the R can achieve on A lot of bends... It impresses me no end..


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