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Post Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:56 am
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Hi all

Had my car remapped yesterday with expert tuning and thought you may be interested in result. 156bhp went to 193bhp and 180torque went to 210.

I didn't expect to feel to much change in the car but was pleasantly surprised not with speed increase of the car but the way it pulls in 3rd, 4th and 5th gear. It really pulls like a train. Up a steep hill where I would have changed down to 2nd gear it will now accelerate in 3rd or 4th gears.

The power delivery is much smoother and builds from low revs right up to high, it used to have a small lag waiting for turbo to kick in that has now gone, power is instant.

I was worried before having it done as I had read some horror stories about remapping, I took along time researching companies to do it. Once I have upgraded the engine components over the next few months I will be back for the stage 2 remap.

Happy Motoring

Chris


Post Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:22 pm
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Nice one! :thumbup: I had mine remapped and had the same sort of results, amazed at the difference it has made to the car better economy too! I'm now happy with the performance and won't be going to stage 2 new exhaust system next for me.
Look forward to seeing what you think of stage 2 :beer:
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Post Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:56 am
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I will have stage 1 remap on monday for my THP 200 :eusa-whistle:

At first i was considering remote remap from http://etuners.gr/ but they are very slow when it comes to communicating so screw them... I will do ECU remap locally :crazy: I'm a bit worried and do not expect big difference but we'll see how that goes :-)

Post Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:03 pm
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Just ensure that they copy your original map so they can put it back if they have to. I also got Expert Tuning to give me a copy of my original map.

Post Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:35 pm
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When I had my remap done recently by Durham Remaps, they told me that the first thing they do is "revert to stock", regardless of what the current ECU settings are.

I presume therefore that there shouldn't be anything to worry about if things go chest protrusions upwards. They can always reset it to manufacturers settings?
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:40 pm

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Nemi wrote:
I will have stage 1 remap on monday for my THP 200 :eusa-whistle:

At first i was considering remote remap from http://etuners.gr/ but they are very slow when it comes to communicating so screw them... I will do ECU remap locally :crazy: I'm a bit worried and do not expect big difference but we'll see how that goes :-)



Having had my Asphalt just under a week i am keen to here your thoughts on this when its done.

Post Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:26 am
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So, after remap my RCZ power increased from 147kW to 172kW and torque increased from 275Nm to 340Nm. I paid 300 eur for that but power increase is very noticeable and the car feels more responsive :shock: Specialist, who did remap, said that it is too much power for a front wheel car and i kinda feel that when i try to accelerate fast - my front wheels just don't stay well enough on the road but maybe that's because my summer tyres are in poor condition and need to be changed next season :eusa-think: Next month i will be putting my 18 inch wheels with new winter tyres and see if there is any difference.

Also, after remap my fuel consumption slightly increased (+0.6 l/100km) for long trips. Haven't checked city driving fuel consumption yet :eusa-think:

I guess now that my RCZ is remapped, i will have to change engine oil/spark plugs more frequently :eusa-think:

Overall, i am happy with my remap, it feels good to have more power :-)

I also found this article http://www.etuners.gr/peugeot-citroen-t ... icing-101/ and they recommend changing spark gap for engines with a remap:
For engines with a remap, we recommend setting the spark gap to 0.6mm. This will increase spark plug wear but will improve spark power by a lot.

Has anyone done that to their remapped engine?

Post Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:40 am
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Nemi wrote:
... Specialist, who did remap, said that it is too much power for a front wheel car...


Stock R's have an extra 40bhp on top of your map, so still plenty before its "too much" ;)
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Post Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:15 am
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Abzynthe wrote:
Nemi wrote:
... Specialist, who did remap, said that it is too much power for a front wheel car...


Stock R's have an extra 40bhp on top of your map, so still plenty before its "too much" ;)


stock r has different setup but still i agree with you

mine with 268hp and (new) p zero tires seems that it can handle 20-30hp more power...

as for the spark plugs i have changed to r's
thp 156 with 268hp!!!!!!!!

Post Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:52 am
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I have replaced my old tires with brand new ones and my RCZ is much more stable now when accelerating fast so the only issue i was having after remap is gone :thumbup:

Post Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:08 am
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With reference to Only AEK's post.

The RCZ-R spark plugs are part number 9677446980
- available at Peugeot or Citroen, not motor factors yet.
Though I've not tried BMW!

Oh and the price is £20.51 each.

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Other mods include door catch covers, rcz puddle lights, quad exhaust tips
Tia3 is a 2015 RCZ-R in Mercury Grey with a 1.6litre petrol engine, oh and 270 bhp
Other mods include door catch covers, rcz puddle lights
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Post Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:16 am
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tianorth wrote:
Oh and the price is £20.51 each.




:crazy: omg thats expensive!!

ask for lower price
(in greece all the dealers reduce the price 10-15% if you tell them)
if i remember right i took them around 70 euro (still expensive)
thp 156 with 268hp!!!!!!!!

Post Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:44 pm
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tianorth wrote:
With reference to Only AEK's post.

The RCZ-R spark plugs are part number 9677446980
- available at Peugeot or Citroen, not motor factors yet.
Though I've not tried BMW!

Oh and the price is £20.51 each.

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Which car shares the engine with the R? I can check BMW :)
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Post Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:50 pm
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Scrap that. Looked it up.
For a BMW N14 engine, the part number is: 12120035531
For a BMW N16 engine, the part number is: 12122158165
For a BMW N18 engine, the part number is: 12122293697

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINI-Genuine- ... 1924675128

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINI-Genuine- ... 1271003234

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-BMW- ... SwGtRXzVux
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Post Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:12 pm
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I know the citroen DS3-R, Peugeot 308 gti use the same engine as the RCZ-R.

Would have thought a mini would have a high bhp engine.

what the equivalent RCZ engine to the BMW N - engines?
Tia2 is a 2013 RCZ Magnetic in Black with a 2litre diesel engine
Upgraded Peugeot sat-nav now has 7 digit postcode, safety alerts and updated maps
Other mods include door catch covers, rcz puddle lights, quad exhaust tips
Tia3 is a 2015 RCZ-R in Mercury Grey with a 1.6litre petrol engine, oh and 270 bhp
Other mods include door catch covers, rcz puddle lights
Both have dash cams front and back

Post Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:10 am
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Another thing worth mentioning is the 308 GTI engine requires the plugs changed at 15k intervals. RCZ-R may be the same.

Post Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:08 pm
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Yes RCZ-R spark plugs are changed every year or 12,500 miles

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Tia2 is a 2013 RCZ Magnetic in Black with a 2litre diesel engine
Upgraded Peugeot sat-nav now has 7 digit postcode, safety alerts and updated maps
Other mods include door catch covers, rcz puddle lights, quad exhaust tips
Tia3 is a 2015 RCZ-R in Mercury Grey with a 1.6litre petrol engine, oh and 270 bhp
Other mods include door catch covers, rcz puddle lights
Both have dash cams front and back

Post Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:57 pm
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Just going by the R engine code, it led me to the wiki for the Prince engine, which says what models use this type of engine, including the R. It also said it was BMW N engines between 13 and 18


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Post Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:33 am
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What bhp do the N - engines have and are they the 1.6?



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Tia2 is a 2013 RCZ Magnetic in Black with a 2litre diesel engine
Upgraded Peugeot sat-nav now has 7 digit postcode, safety alerts and updated maps
Other mods include door catch covers, rcz puddle lights, quad exhaust tips
Tia3 is a 2015 RCZ-R in Mercury Grey with a 1.6litre petrol engine, oh and 270 bhp
Other mods include door catch covers, rcz puddle lights
Both have dash cams front and back

Post Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:53 am
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MINI N14 B16 C Engine Variant Information

TecDoc ID 25562Variant:
N14 B16 CFuel:
Petrol EngineDirect Injection
Cooling : Water-cooled
Timing Control : Chain

Engine CC: 1598
Engine KW: 141
Engine BHP: 192

4 Cylinders
16 Valves
DOHC
Cylinder Config: Straight

https://www.dragonauto.works/technical- ... %20b16%20c



MINI N16 B16 A Engine Variant Information

TecDoc ID 25563
Variant: N16 B16 A
Fuel: Petrol EngineIntake Manifold Injection/ Carburettor
Cooling : Water-cooled
Timing Control : Chain

Engine CC: 1598
Engine KW: 55
Engine BHP: 75

4 Cylinders
16 Valves
DOHC
Cylinder Config: Straight

https://dragonauto.works/technical-reso ... %20b16%20a




Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
Tia2 is a 2013 RCZ Magnetic in Black with a 2litre diesel engine
Upgraded Peugeot sat-nav now has 7 digit postcode, safety alerts and updated maps
Other mods include door catch covers, rcz puddle lights, quad exhaust tips
Tia3 is a 2015 RCZ-R in Mercury Grey with a 1.6litre petrol engine, oh and 270 bhp
Other mods include door catch covers, rcz puddle lights
Both have dash cams front and back


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