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Post Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:35 am
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it's clearly a tire-issue, in combination with temperature. On the stock tires, my R does this in winter a lot. In summer it's non-existent. I have winter-wheels which I will mount in november or so, so I'm curious how they will behave. In any case it is not a bug, just a feature. :)
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Post Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:40 am
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Mine has 0 to do with temperature. Rail, hail, or shine, or heatwave (stupid Australia) it will happen.

But yeah a nice feature that wont stop :(

Also interested to see how your winter wheels go.
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Post Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:34 am
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This is a common fault.

Basically the geometry doesn't help things but it could also be down to play in bearing and bushes etc.
I've had my struts replaced under warranty as they though that they were moving, bu it still did it, the technician rotated the strut and it seemed to solve it!!!

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Post Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:30 am
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Had the front wheel/LSD juddering today, its just above 0 so the tyre compound is hard (as the Goodyears artsticky summer tyres and not softer winter tyres for these temps).
I would say there is no issue here, just physics and hard (cold) rubber (as we all know, summer tyres are not as good below 7 deg as they take longer to warm up).

Post Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:58 pm
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Mine has done a scrub or two on full lock. Could be why they have plastic front liners instead of carpet like the rear?

Stop it from wearing it through too quickly maybe?!
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Post Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:31 am
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Also noted the noise on full lock on my R too over the last few weeks, certainly wasn't there when we had the warmer weather.

Can remember it making a right old noise ( had the ferry ops looking anyway ) when having to turn on full lock driving on the ferry on the steel floor, but it never did it on the road - until now.

Funny thing is and this might be purely coincidental with the change of season - only started after having the car in for replacement discs + pads. Can defo say never did it before, you know those times that you wished you never said owt, well I was kinda thinking that when I heard the noise after discs done. Guess swap one evil for another.

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Post Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:05 pm
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I changed to winter wheels a few weeks ago and haven't noticed the full lock judder since.
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Post Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:17 pm
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on full lock my rcz r made a juddering noise,i changed the tyres to continental sports and they are perfect no noise at all.

Post Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:23 pm
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Plecodoras wrote:
Also noted the noise on full lock on my R too over the last few weeks, certainly wasn't there when we had the warmer weather.

Can remember it making a right old noise ( had the ferry ops looking anyway ) when having to turn on full lock driving on the ferry on the steel floor, but it never did it on the road - until now.

Funny thing is and this might be purely coincidental with the change of season - only started after having the car in for replacement discs + pads. Can defo say never did it before, you know those times that you wished you never said owt, well I was kinda thinking that when I heard the noise after discs done. Guess swap one evil for another.

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tyres worn on inside?

Post Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:50 pm
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bailey wrote:
on full lock my rcz r made a juddering noise,i changed the tyres to continental sports and they are perfect no noise at all.


My last R used to make the juddering / skip in full lock in cold wet weather. It had Goodyear tyres. My current R doesn’t and that is fitted with Conti’s. Strange that !
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Post Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:53 pm
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Mine makes a juddery noise every now and again. It's got conti sport contact something on.

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Post Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:39 pm
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i was getting scrubbing on full lock it sounded shocking.i was told to change my tyres to either parelli or continental sport ,so I did .I changed to continentals and the scrubbing has totally vanished.on full lock it is totally perfect.ASTONISHED.

Post Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:46 pm
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Mine has contis, still Scrubs.

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Post Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:39 pm
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drdino wrote:
It's not a problem, it's the result of Ackerman geometry.

Hi, it's not really Ackerman, that requires linkage that there is no room for. True Ackerman couples the two front steering assemblies together accurately, to ensure scrub is reduced to a minimum, not separate connection via a steering rack. My hdi does it almost always in reverse, as did my Ford Fiesta 2012 model, not so much on a dry surface, as already stated but definitely on damp ones. Ever since the days of solid axles steering has been a compromise. Dave

Post Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:22 pm
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my rcz r when on full lock had tyre scrubbing and made a nasty noise.i changed the tyres to continentals and it is now perfect no problems at all

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